Lies about Black people


Lies about Black people.

This episode was originally recorded in October 2023.

In this episode Judith Germain and Dr Omekongo Dibinga have an insightful discussion about lies and stereotypes about Black people and how to combat racism.

Key Takeaways

  • Racist stereotypes and lies about Black people are pervasive globally, not just in the US. These false narratives must be actively challenged.
  • Leaders must commit to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts for real change to occur in organisations. Performative efforts are not enough.
  • Safe spaces are crucial, but bringing everyone together too soon can be counterproductive. Meet in separate affinity groups first.
  • We must look at our own lives and circles critically and ask hard questions through an anti-racist lens. The “Rule of Seven” exercise is one way to do this.
  • Nuance and context is key. We must ask better questions and not make assumptions.


The global impact of racist stereotypes and lies about Black people

  • Dr. Dibinga shared how growing up as a Black person in Boston, he experienced bullying and disrespect from all communities based on stereotypes and racist narratives shown in media.
  • He explains these false narratives about Black people exist globally, not just in the US, and they must be actively challenged in order to create inclusive communities.

The need for organisational leaders to move beyond performative efforts

  • Dr. Dibinga emphasised that leaders must truly commit to diversity, equity and inclusion for change to occur quickly in an organisation.
  • He gave examples of how some efforts are merely performative, such as celebrating a holiday without examining systemic pay disparities. Leaders must be willing to have difficult conversations.

Creating safe spaces and the importance of meeting in separate groups first

  • Dr. Dibinga explained the need to create safe spaces where people feel they can share openly, but stressed bringing everyone together too soon can be counterproductive.
  • He suggested starting with separate affinity groups based on race, gender etc first to allow initial conversations before bringing all together.

Examining our own lives through an anti-racist lens

  • Dr. Dibinga introduced the “Rule of Seven” exercise where you critically examine the racial makeup of your closest circles and choices to reveal blindspots and lack of diversity.
  • This type of self-reflection helps people recognise the need to start making different choices to live a life committed to diversity, equity and inclusion.

The importance of nuance, context and asking better questions

  • They discussed examples like hiring Black actors and assumptions made on both sides because of lack of nuance and context.
  • Dr. Dibinga emphasised we must go deeper by asking better questions rather than making surface-level assumptions.

In this conversation Dr Omekongo Dibinga elaborated on the global lies and stereotypes about Black people that impact perceptions and treatment. He explained how these false narratives stem from historical racism and persist through media, policies, and cultural conditioning. Omekongo and Judith discussed concrete solutions organisations can implement for authentic diversity, equity and inclusion. This requires commitment from leadership, assessing biases, employee feedback, hiring practices and going beyond performative efforts.

Dr Omekongo Dibinga is a Professor, DEI Consultant and poet.

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Dr Omekongo Dibinga can be found on LinkedIn here. His website is here.

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